how are Palestinians working in Israel affected this way by the Israelite society?
like they have curfews and have little freedom my World Geo. teacher never explained this is it because of the whole "holocaust was their fault" accusation? no rude comments about islam or judaism please
Other - Cultures & Groups - 4 Answers
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Israelis are mostly ethnically German and Western European and these groups of people tend to be racist. Hell they even radiated Arab Jews because they thought they were dirty in the 1950s and 1960s.
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All I ask is for you to be patient and watch this video. This is how the Palestinian people are affected. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4752349n
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No one believes or accuses Palestinians of having anything to do with the Holocaust. Many are full Israeli citizens that live throughout Israel and are even members of Israeli government. What those who have been given a "Homeland" in Gaza, presumably in exchange for peace, have been doing: firing over 5000 missiles into Israeli towns at citizens over the past few years; in violation of treaties.
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Enormously less than Jews working in Palestine would be by the Arab society.We need societies which are able to create wealth, research, progress, improvement, not just lots of children and fanaticism. To understand better we should always think of the situation reversed: first, Arabs don't offer workplaces to Jews; second, if they did, how long do you think the Jew would survive?
Saturday, May 7, 2011
Sunday, May 1, 2011
Is israel an unsafe place to do missionary work
Is israel an unsafe place to do missionary work?
I'm asking for people with experience in missions...specifically in the middle east i plan to go to Israel this year as a missionary, during the Pentecost. I'm worried though, because I've been told its not a low risk trip- is it against the law to spread Christianity there? is there a possibility that we will either be executed or killed by extremists? and if so how high is the risk? any info would be great. thanks.
Israel - 17 Answers
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1 :
Why don't you think of going to Pakistan or Afghanistan? It will be very safe to do Your dirty job there. After that good experience, you may choose Saudi Arabia followed by other Gulf countries! And being a Missionary, why you are so scared of getting killed by extremists? Jesus will save you. Take courage and go ahead. Book you tickets toi Karachi.
2 :
Israel is a country for Jewish people. Judaism is their religion, not Christianity. Why do you think you are entitled to go there and try to convert them to your belief system? How would you like it if Jews or Muslims constantly harrassed you to convert to their religion? As for your safety, yes there are some extremists there, much l\ike there are elsewhere in the world. Definite risks also, with the possibiility of suicide bombings, and with the middle east being an explosive regioun in general.
3 :
You are so right. It is by and large a violent place even for the Jewish people. Bless them but don't talk about born again around them....Not Wise!
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actually there is a small christian community which are catholics and orthodoxs.. as catholic.. protestants or evangelics are not welcomed to middle east in general.. becuase you want to convert them.. the roman catholic or the orthodox churches are not doing that work, and our communities have been in Israel before the protestantism comes.. so you are not welcomed
5 :
It is a criminal offense in Israel to give or promise anything materialistic to some one in order to change his/her religion. There's also a proposal to make it illegal to preach for conversion. Generally, Jews frown upon missionary work, and there have been some instances of violence against missionaries, especially against those who call themselves "Messianic Jews".
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It isn't a crime to be Christian. In fact, Christianity is very much embraced in Israel. I'm not a missionary, but I've been to Israel, and along the Jordan River, they have baptisms daily with people from all around the world. No-one is going to execute you, unless you take someone hostage, which I sincerely doubt you'd do :) As for risk factors, don't wave a Palestinian flag in the streets, and don't look like you have a bomb. Also, don't try to pass around leaflets about Christianity, or try to convert people - Israelis don't take kindly to that. You should be fine. Have a safe, fun, and productive trip!
7 :
Israel has laws which prevents you from publicly organizing to spread any religion. This includes passing out pamphlets and religious texts for free. This comes from a Jewish tradition to not spread religion, but instead allow only people to come to you, with the belief that people who come to you are sincere about converting. If you want to spread Christianity, it should be done on a more personal level, telling people you know that you think that they should convert. That is legal in Israel. As for the risk factor, there is the chance some of the ultra-religious Haredi or Muslims (depending on who you preach to) will be violent, and attack you. They aren't legally allowed to do this, but they still do, sometimes. Otherwise, you could be arrested for trying proselytizer potential converts. Since Israel is a democracy, you will receive a fair trial. It is not as high a risk as many other surrounding countries.
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First I would like to know by what authority or bible verse you feel you have a mandate to convert Jews. There are plenty of Christians living there for that. There is need in America. God has his own plan for Israel and it doesn't involve Evangelicals. If you just have to go somewhere and spread the word stand outside any school in America they sure aren't getting any there. The country is going to Atheist and Pagans. But you need to save Israel? I suggest you learn more of your Old Testament before you take on the Jews.
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Nope,Israel is rated number 4 among the top five most dangerous places on Earth. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1090160.html Next to Angola and Somalia.
10 :
forget it, that society is not that tolerant, or open minded to others beliefs, some people are real whack jobs. protesting because a car park opened! haha gets me everytime.
11 :
As my friend once put it, why target other monotheists when there are many polytheists out there?
12 :
As other people already stated; why are you going so far away anyway dear? I mean there must be evangelists in that country, maybe not that much, but I am nearly sure they exist. So helping your own nation seems like a wiser idea. And also another point of view, I live in Turkey and we have evangelists around here too and as far as I know, they can do their thing quite safely, but what I noticed about this issue is; evangelists who are nationals of that country (who speaks the language, who knows the culture, etc) tend to be more succesful in that thing they do (giving leaflets or CDs, answering questions, knowing where they should go on talking and when they should stop it and more listen etc.). People tend to believe in them but not a foreigner also :) You know it is just an idea, but it may lead you somewhere...
13 :
i personally would be more worried about what israelis will do to you than anything else. .. Us jews had 2000 years of forced conversion, conversion attempts that are still going on today in the form of jews for jesus etc ... ISRAEL IS A JEWISH COUNTRY.. jews go there because they want to live a fully jewish life - in a jewish country, under jewish law.. away from the discrimination and conversion attempts of other countries... There are laws in israel against preaching on the street and israelis in general really dont take kindly to conversion attempts... especially in more religious areas... us israelis can be very blunt and far more direct and in your face than in other countries.and youll find that there are a lot of people who wont be afraid at all to tell you what they think of you trying to convert them .. not only that but its likely that if you are caught preaching youll be put in jail or deported. neither will be a pleasant experience. .. to add to that , there is the security situation and areas where you will - as foreigners be at a higher risk of kidnapp etc... its not as bad as places like afghanistan - but some areas are very dangerous... and if you think israeli jail would be bad... it will be nothing compared to staying at the pleasure of hamas terroristss... my advice - come to israel - its a beautifull place... but please respect the faith of the people and the country and leave the conversion and preaching behind... surely t hat is a better way to express your faith ???
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You can do it only if you don't mind getting spit on or getting rocks thrown at you or getting yelled at. Believe me that's what you're going to get from israelis. No mercy.
15 :
i doubt you would be killed but i highly suggest you don't, you do know a lot of Jewish people especially in Israel really don't like when people try to convert them. like I'm sure you don't like when people try to convert you. since Israel is a democracy I'm sure its against the law to kill someone. but if you are I'm sure you'll be glad to know they might be punished (if they're caught of course) :) you really shouldn't go. Israel is a Jewish state but not everyone is Jewish and it is not against the law to spread Christianity but like i said before - don't go they will not appreciate it
16 :
The law here states that you cannot offer anything to anyone in exchange for conversion of their beliefs. A little while ago, the mormons came here offering for Jews to move to the states and be given houses and jobs after converting. So if you really think you can sway or beliefs simply by reading to us, go right ahead. It's not like you'll get any better results just knocking on peoples' doors. But be forewarned. If you run into me, I would be I could sit you down and talk you into giving up your missionary work. My count for that is already at 4 with probably another dozen or so still pondering their belief structure.
17 :
Israel is safe, as long as you don't enter the West Bank, Gaza strip or any town 40 km from the Gaza strip.I would advise against proselytizing in Israel because proselytizing any type of religion in Israel is illegal due to the fact that it instigates violence. But it is not illegal to practice Christianity in Israel.
I'm asking for people with experience in missions...specifically in the middle east i plan to go to Israel this year as a missionary, during the Pentecost. I'm worried though, because I've been told its not a low risk trip- is it against the law to spread Christianity there? is there a possibility that we will either be executed or killed by extremists? and if so how high is the risk? any info would be great. thanks.
Israel - 17 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
Why don't you think of going to Pakistan or Afghanistan? It will be very safe to do Your dirty job there. After that good experience, you may choose Saudi Arabia followed by other Gulf countries! And being a Missionary, why you are so scared of getting killed by extremists? Jesus will save you. Take courage and go ahead. Book you tickets toi Karachi.
2 :
Israel is a country for Jewish people. Judaism is their religion, not Christianity. Why do you think you are entitled to go there and try to convert them to your belief system? How would you like it if Jews or Muslims constantly harrassed you to convert to their religion? As for your safety, yes there are some extremists there, much l\ike there are elsewhere in the world. Definite risks also, with the possibiility of suicide bombings, and with the middle east being an explosive regioun in general.
3 :
You are so right. It is by and large a violent place even for the Jewish people. Bless them but don't talk about born again around them....Not Wise!
4 :
actually there is a small christian community which are catholics and orthodoxs.. as catholic.. protestants or evangelics are not welcomed to middle east in general.. becuase you want to convert them.. the roman catholic or the orthodox churches are not doing that work, and our communities have been in Israel before the protestantism comes.. so you are not welcomed
5 :
It is a criminal offense in Israel to give or promise anything materialistic to some one in order to change his/her religion. There's also a proposal to make it illegal to preach for conversion. Generally, Jews frown upon missionary work, and there have been some instances of violence against missionaries, especially against those who call themselves "Messianic Jews".
6 :
It isn't a crime to be Christian. In fact, Christianity is very much embraced in Israel. I'm not a missionary, but I've been to Israel, and along the Jordan River, they have baptisms daily with people from all around the world. No-one is going to execute you, unless you take someone hostage, which I sincerely doubt you'd do :) As for risk factors, don't wave a Palestinian flag in the streets, and don't look like you have a bomb. Also, don't try to pass around leaflets about Christianity, or try to convert people - Israelis don't take kindly to that. You should be fine. Have a safe, fun, and productive trip!
7 :
Israel has laws which prevents you from publicly organizing to spread any religion. This includes passing out pamphlets and religious texts for free. This comes from a Jewish tradition to not spread religion, but instead allow only people to come to you, with the belief that people who come to you are sincere about converting. If you want to spread Christianity, it should be done on a more personal level, telling people you know that you think that they should convert. That is legal in Israel. As for the risk factor, there is the chance some of the ultra-religious Haredi or Muslims (depending on who you preach to) will be violent, and attack you. They aren't legally allowed to do this, but they still do, sometimes. Otherwise, you could be arrested for trying proselytizer potential converts. Since Israel is a democracy, you will receive a fair trial. It is not as high a risk as many other surrounding countries.
8 :
First I would like to know by what authority or bible verse you feel you have a mandate to convert Jews. There are plenty of Christians living there for that. There is need in America. God has his own plan for Israel and it doesn't involve Evangelicals. If you just have to go somewhere and spread the word stand outside any school in America they sure aren't getting any there. The country is going to Atheist and Pagans. But you need to save Israel? I suggest you learn more of your Old Testament before you take on the Jews.
9 :
Nope,Israel is rated number 4 among the top five most dangerous places on Earth. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1090160.html Next to Angola and Somalia.
10 :
forget it, that society is not that tolerant, or open minded to others beliefs, some people are real whack jobs. protesting because a car park opened! haha gets me everytime.
11 :
As my friend once put it, why target other monotheists when there are many polytheists out there?
12 :
As other people already stated; why are you going so far away anyway dear? I mean there must be evangelists in that country, maybe not that much, but I am nearly sure they exist. So helping your own nation seems like a wiser idea. And also another point of view, I live in Turkey and we have evangelists around here too and as far as I know, they can do their thing quite safely, but what I noticed about this issue is; evangelists who are nationals of that country (who speaks the language, who knows the culture, etc) tend to be more succesful in that thing they do (giving leaflets or CDs, answering questions, knowing where they should go on talking and when they should stop it and more listen etc.). People tend to believe in them but not a foreigner also :) You know it is just an idea, but it may lead you somewhere...
13 :
i personally would be more worried about what israelis will do to you than anything else. .. Us jews had 2000 years of forced conversion, conversion attempts that are still going on today in the form of jews for jesus etc ... ISRAEL IS A JEWISH COUNTRY.. jews go there because they want to live a fully jewish life - in a jewish country, under jewish law.. away from the discrimination and conversion attempts of other countries... There are laws in israel against preaching on the street and israelis in general really dont take kindly to conversion attempts... especially in more religious areas... us israelis can be very blunt and far more direct and in your face than in other countries.and youll find that there are a lot of people who wont be afraid at all to tell you what they think of you trying to convert them .. not only that but its likely that if you are caught preaching youll be put in jail or deported. neither will be a pleasant experience. .. to add to that , there is the security situation and areas where you will - as foreigners be at a higher risk of kidnapp etc... its not as bad as places like afghanistan - but some areas are very dangerous... and if you think israeli jail would be bad... it will be nothing compared to staying at the pleasure of hamas terroristss... my advice - come to israel - its a beautifull place... but please respect the faith of the people and the country and leave the conversion and preaching behind... surely t hat is a better way to express your faith ???
14 :
You can do it only if you don't mind getting spit on or getting rocks thrown at you or getting yelled at. Believe me that's what you're going to get from israelis. No mercy.
15 :
i doubt you would be killed but i highly suggest you don't, you do know a lot of Jewish people especially in Israel really don't like when people try to convert them. like I'm sure you don't like when people try to convert you. since Israel is a democracy I'm sure its against the law to kill someone. but if you are I'm sure you'll be glad to know they might be punished (if they're caught of course) :) you really shouldn't go. Israel is a Jewish state but not everyone is Jewish and it is not against the law to spread Christianity but like i said before - don't go they will not appreciate it
16 :
The law here states that you cannot offer anything to anyone in exchange for conversion of their beliefs. A little while ago, the mormons came here offering for Jews to move to the states and be given houses and jobs after converting. So if you really think you can sway or beliefs simply by reading to us, go right ahead. It's not like you'll get any better results just knocking on peoples' doors. But be forewarned. If you run into me, I would be I could sit you down and talk you into giving up your missionary work. My count for that is already at 4 with probably another dozen or so still pondering their belief structure.
17 :
Israel is safe, as long as you don't enter the West Bank, Gaza strip or any town 40 km from the Gaza strip.I would advise against proselytizing in Israel because proselytizing any type of religion in Israel is illegal due to the fact that it instigates violence. But it is not illegal to practice Christianity in Israel.
Thursday, April 21, 2011
Would a reverse Nakba happen if Israel and Palestine merged into one democracy
Would a reverse Nakba happen if Israel and Palestine merged into one democracy?
The way the the binational agreement would work is that Israel and Palestine would merge together into one secular democracy. Since Palestinians make up the majority of the population if the population of Israel and the Palestinian territories are put together, would the Palestinians create a tyranny of the majority and vote for a Jewish Nakba in vengeance? Or will both ethnicities integrate into the new democratic society?
Israel - 9 Answers
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Israel can not merge with "Palestine", because Israel IS Palestine. Palestinian Arabs would be the minority even if you count all the population of Gaza, West bank and add the Israeli Arabs to them. Secular democracy with Hamas? You are joking. Sorry, but your project is absolutely impossible to implement(and besides, Israel absolutely does not need to do this)
2 :
There has already a Jewish Nakba , the forced expulsion of Jews from Arab and Islamic lands. Yes it would be a disaster if Israel no longer existed as the lone and true Jewish state.
3 :
No country on earth would allow nukes to fall into the hands of the Palestinians. If I had to live as the Palestinians do, I'd probably use them the first chance I had. Merging the two would mean sharing everything. Including the nukes. The only way they would merge is if Israel gave up it's nukes, which will never happen.
4 :
Did you ever see an Arab country without a tyranny? they may try to hide it and spin the truth but all Arab countries are not democratic at best they hold fake elections like in Syria where Assad always get 100% of votes. And they will kill all Jews who wont convert to Islam like they did in the past, and still preach for in their mosques every day 5 times.
5 :
Yes it would, and most of the Jews would be wiped out, or forced to flee. The few that might be left would become not 2nd class but 3rd or 4th class citizens, or possibly made into slaves.
6 :
A reverse Naqba has already happened I've attached the Wikipedia article, and a blog how Jewish life was and currently is in the former lands of thriving Mizrahi communities. I would say enjoy, but not really, since it is tragic.
7 :
Here's a simple fact, Palestinians will NOT drive a million Jew out of Palestine and take their houses.
8 :
It is true that the Israeli Jews have lots of crimes to answer for. Under conditions of UN resolution 194 which says that those returning should live at peace with their neighbors (and I think any Palestinian refugee who returns would be happy to agree to the terms of that resolution) as well as equal rights for all, none of the Jews would be forced out. A lot would simply leave because they like their comfortable position of privilege too much and want to live in a western culture, and would move back to Europe or the U.S. But you could not call it a Nakba.
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This will NEVER happen. If such a thing were ever proposed by any mainstream Israeli politician, he'd soon meet with a bullet.
The way the the binational agreement would work is that Israel and Palestine would merge together into one secular democracy. Since Palestinians make up the majority of the population if the population of Israel and the Palestinian territories are put together, would the Palestinians create a tyranny of the majority and vote for a Jewish Nakba in vengeance? Or will both ethnicities integrate into the new democratic society?
Israel - 9 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
Israel can not merge with "Palestine", because Israel IS Palestine. Palestinian Arabs would be the minority even if you count all the population of Gaza, West bank and add the Israeli Arabs to them. Secular democracy with Hamas? You are joking. Sorry, but your project is absolutely impossible to implement(and besides, Israel absolutely does not need to do this)
2 :
There has already a Jewish Nakba , the forced expulsion of Jews from Arab and Islamic lands. Yes it would be a disaster if Israel no longer existed as the lone and true Jewish state.
3 :
No country on earth would allow nukes to fall into the hands of the Palestinians. If I had to live as the Palestinians do, I'd probably use them the first chance I had. Merging the two would mean sharing everything. Including the nukes. The only way they would merge is if Israel gave up it's nukes, which will never happen.
4 :
Did you ever see an Arab country without a tyranny? they may try to hide it and spin the truth but all Arab countries are not democratic at best they hold fake elections like in Syria where Assad always get 100% of votes. And they will kill all Jews who wont convert to Islam like they did in the past, and still preach for in their mosques every day 5 times.
5 :
Yes it would, and most of the Jews would be wiped out, or forced to flee. The few that might be left would become not 2nd class but 3rd or 4th class citizens, or possibly made into slaves.
6 :
A reverse Naqba has already happened I've attached the Wikipedia article, and a blog how Jewish life was and currently is in the former lands of thriving Mizrahi communities. I would say enjoy, but not really, since it is tragic.
7 :
Here's a simple fact, Palestinians will NOT drive a million Jew out of Palestine and take their houses.
8 :
It is true that the Israeli Jews have lots of crimes to answer for. Under conditions of UN resolution 194 which says that those returning should live at peace with their neighbors (and I think any Palestinian refugee who returns would be happy to agree to the terms of that resolution) as well as equal rights for all, none of the Jews would be forced out. A lot would simply leave because they like their comfortable position of privilege too much and want to live in a western culture, and would move back to Europe or the U.S. But you could not call it a Nakba.
9 :
This will NEVER happen. If such a thing were ever proposed by any mainstream Israeli politician, he'd soon meet with a bullet.
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